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  • The author admits that his criticism would fall apart as hypocritical if the West did similar things

    That's false, though.

    The West committing an injustice doesn't entitle China to commit the same injustice or another.

    "Whataboutism" isn't even a real thing

    Someone relying on whataboutisms to deflect attention away from the misdeeds of their favorite tyrants WOULD say that, yes.

    Whataboutism is a real thing and that real thing is a logical fallacy of avoidance of accountability via deflection.

    Random internet people just started saying it one day

    Nope. That's grade A horseshit.

    The term originated in 1970s Northern Ireland:

    1974 letter by history teacher Sean O'Conaill which was published in The Irish Times where he complained about "the Whatabouts", people who defended the IRA by pointing out supposed wrongdoings of their enemy

    Hardly "random internet people

    but it has no logical basis

    That's the thing: logical is exactly what pointing a whataboutism is.

    It's a tu quoque fallacy used to manipulate the conversation away from a place that makes you uncomfortable by changing the subject to something you're more comfortable talking about, but which doesn't justify the thing you're trying to defend.

    When looking at criticism of a particular country, obviously it's relevant whether other countries are doing similar things while only one country gets singled out for it.

    Not relevant to whether or not the particular country is wrong in doing so.

    If I was on trial for embezzlement, tax fraud, and defrauding a charity, pointing out that Donald Trump has done all of those things would not be a viable legal defense.

    For the sake of clarity, would you mind answering whether every government that has ever existed is "tyrannical" by your standards

    Nope, that would require me to take it as a given that your ridiculous strawman argument has merit.

    whether you think China is in some way exceptional based on something relavent to the article posted?

    This law, which is a Chinese law, is exceptionally oppressive against Uyghurs, Tibetans, Chinese people who speak any of the 9 other Chinese language groups that aren't Mandarin, and rightfully criticize the Chinese government for anything ever.

    The above paragraph is true whether or not any Western nation has passed any similarly oppressive laws.

    As for your "singling out" claim, it's an article about a specific law that's recently passed and currently being enacted.

    That's not singling out, that's reporting on current events.

  • When the author says something blatantly false I'm allowed to call them on it.

    Sure. It doesn't entitle you to whitewash whatever the tyrants you prefer is doing, though.

    THAT'S what you did and THAT'S textbook whataboutism.

    Then again, it's pretty naive of me to expect a tankie to not defend the indefensible via a "but the west!" whataboutism deflection.

    You guys are just as ridiculous as American Republicans.

  • It's very funny that the article goes out of it's way to say like, "The West never does things like this" because it means y'all don't get to accuse me of "whataboutism."

    This motherfucker using a whataboutism to explain how HIS whataboutism is immune from being pointed out 🙄🤦🏻

    The US literally asserts the jurisdiction to bomb any country on earth if a secret, unelected, totally unaccountable domestic court determinines the country is harboring "terrorists," a nebulus term which has now been expanded to mean anyone who doesn't like fascism or doesn't buy things from Israel. "Every western example rests on a defined wrong" is an absolutely insane sentence to write.

    Absolutely correct.

    Still doesn't make the Chinese law just.

    to promote ethnic divisions to create dissent and instability.

    You know who worry about "dissent and instability" enough to make laws specifically against it?

    Tyrants and nobody else.

    Do you know which people applaud such laws in spite of not being amongst the powerful people they're designed to protect?

    Tankies, fascists, and other idiots prone to cheer their own oppression. Nobody else.

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  • The last star of the Greek alphabet? 🤷🏻

  • A Boring Dystopia @lemmy.world

    Financial Times drops the mask

  • A Boring Dystopia @lemmy.world

    One of the first tweets by Germany's CDU’s new general secretary: “there is no genocide in Gaza”

    xcancel.com /FHoppermann/status/2083444089509367931
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    German court rules comparing Israel to Nazi Germany constitutes 'protected speech'

    www.middleeasteye.net /news/german-court-rules-comparing-israel-nazi-germany-protected-speech
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  • My sources are doctors, therapists, psychiatrists, and countless medical research papers is my point.

    Weirdly enough, the people diagnosing, treating, and researching ADHD for a living know more about it than some random edgelord calling themselves "modern medicine isn't" does 🙄

  • Fuck, hadn't spotted that 🤦🏻😮‍💨

  • How do you know?

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  • True. Though she's closer to 13 pounds, even though I have her on vet approved low cal kibble 😄

  • You're literally right.

  • Way to be 8 months behind, dipshit

    Tbf, that's almost 34 years further than the "every election takes place in 1992" Clintonite "Centrist" bastard usually is 🤷🏻

  • Singapore's "justice" system isn't civilized, though. It's draconian to the point of barbarism.

  • Nah, I'm pretty sure they'd need one more to go from "a couple of crow(e)s" to a murder, so it's still just an attempted one

  • Also the torso to leg ratio is WAY off, as it looks pretty normal 😁

  • That might be it, as she's now apparently trying to touch as much of it as possible 😁

  • By being the devil we know, I guess? 🤷🏻

  • It does? Most "best Star Trek series" lists I've seen has it at #1 or #2 🤷🏻

  • I love the underlying sentiment, but there's plenty of places as near or even closer to me where she wouldn't have to have her head and neck against metal with corners 😄

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    Can't for the life of me figure out how that's comfortable 😄🥰

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    Kakistocracy incarnate

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    Fuck forced reverence

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    Apropos of nothing 😇

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    Mystery solved rule

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    Agreed

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    It really ties the universe together

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